Just for fun, I ran the statement through the Word grammar checker with both singular and plural verbs. Neither version triggered an error message. That said, I will never trust the grammar checker at least until it no longer report that the sentence, "Place the book on the table." Is missing a verb.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] question of terminology
You're RIGHT, Graham. I hate it when I'm wrong! 😃 Love the "packet of peanuts" example.
John Viescas, author
Effective SQL
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 03:53, 'Graham Mandeno' graham@mandeno.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi John
I must beg to disagree with you. The number of the verb should agree with the primary object (or in this case, the primary complement) which is "range". It's really no different from other "container" nouns such as "cupful" or "packet". You wouldn't say "There are a packet of peanuts on the table".
Cheers,
Graham
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Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 03:17
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Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] question of terminology
Glenn-
The target noun is "connections". Wide and Range are just modifiers. There ARE connections - a wide range of them.
John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:49 PM, 'Glenn Lloyd' argeedblu@gmail.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks very much John.
I do appreciate the editorial assistance. Not to quibble but I used the singular verb because the reference is to a (single) range. In my defense I usually am more careful about the dangling participle but the quote attributed to Churchill sometimes pops into my head as "the sort of errant pedantry up with which I will not put." That said, I agree that "you can use." is definitely more readable than my original.
Glenn
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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] question of terminology
Glenn-
I see no problem with the general statement - except the atrocious English. Noun-verb disagreement, dangling participle, etc.
There are a wide range of possible data connections, including, but not limited to other Excel workbooks, Access Databases and Data Connection (.odc) files. You may need to contact your IT services or Database Administrator for assistance in setting up a data connection source that you can connect to use. (or to which you can connect.)
John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications
(Paris, France)
On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:30 PM, 'Glenn Lloyd' argeedblu@gmail.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Apologies for raising an question that is specifically related to Excel at the moment but in the grand scheme of things I think it could equally relate to Access. Although I have been working in depth in Access for the past 15+ years, my experience with the workings of large organizations is incredibly lacking. Hence my question. Is the following statement accurate or are there better ways I could phrase it:
There is a wide range of possible data connections, including, but not limited to other Excel workbook, Access Databases and Data Connection (.odc) files. You may need to contact your IT services or Database Administrator for assistance in setting up a data connection source that you can connect to.
To give you a little context, I am preparing for a workshop where data connections will be touched on and I want to be prepared for the anticipated question, "What if I can't find my connection in the browsing dialogues?"
Thanks,
Glenn
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