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Re: RE: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Custom Ribbon Question

 

Thank You Glenn, I too have been putting controls on the quick access tool bar for years. But because of the many users who access the databases, those things do not show up on others machines unless it is a custom ribbon. So that is why I endeavored to learn the custom ribbon development. The quick access toolbar was the reason for wanting more control. I do not think that my boss would pay for an xml coder. I am using notepad ++ for now.

Jim Wagner


On Tue May 16 2017 04:43:10 GMT-0700 (US Mountain Standard Time), 'Glenn Lloyd' argeedblu@gmail.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Jim,

 

Sorry that I am late to the party but I have some comments that I want to pass along for what they are worth.

 

First of all I agree and endorse with the comments that John, Andrew, and Bill have already posted so I won't repeat them here.

 

I use (and create) custom ribbons in two ways. First, in my development environment, I have added commands that I use all the time to the Quick Access Toolbar. Among these commands are Backup and Compact & Repair. I also include the Form Design alignment commands there and because I use VBA, I include the VBA Command there as well. I don't write the XML for this, just use the Access Interface. (I realize that this is a bit off-topic to your original question but it may be something else for you to consider.)

 

When it comes to production applications, as the others have already said, tailoring the ribbon to the needs of the end user makes for a much more professional-looking application. In one of my projects, screen space is at a real premium. Some of the form need a lot of real estate and my client wanted to run the application on laptops with relatively small screens. Even minimized, the ribbon uses too much vertical space for some of the forms.  So, in that application, I have completely eliminated the ribbon.

 

My main reason for replying here, however, is to point out that there are some tools available that will write the XML for you. I don't want to post links here as they are commercial products (albeit with modest fees.) If you are interested, please feel free to email me and I will send you the links.

 

Glenn

argeedblu@gmail.com

 

 

 

From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:22 PM
To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Custom Ribbon Question

 

 

To John, Andrew and Bill,

 

Thank You for the advice. I just was not sure yet how I wanted to implement a ribbon, but you have given me some ideas. Have a terrific day.

 

Jim Wagner


 

 

On Fri May 12 2017 11:16:10 GMT-0700 (US Mountain Standard Time), wrmosca@comcast.net [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Jim - Custom Ribbons are a way to control what your user can and can't do. It simplifies things, too. I have a report ribbon that has various options for printing, sending to Excel, emailing, PDF.

 

By hiding the default ribbon, you can further prevent the user from messing with the tables, queries and macros.

 

-Bill Mosca



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MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, <luvmymelody@yahoo.com> wrote :

Hello all,

 

I have been learning how to create a custom ribbon using xml. I am trying to learn more about access.  So I have created several tabs and they work great. But I am looking at one of the tabs and I have a lot of reports on the one tab and was asking the most important question. "Does anybody really create custom ribbons and use them?" And what would users and developers use them for? Like opening forms instead of using a switchboard with buttons? Just wanted to get an idea if the learning about ribbon development is worth the journey.

 

Thank You

Jim Wagner

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