Selasa, 15 November 2016

Re: [MS_AccessPros] Set date type fields settings

 

John,

Yes i am using these both fields "MfgDate" and "ExpDate" as Date/Time Data type and further at some instances items expired and expiring within one month these are used and calculated, and displayed as Notifications on Main Menu and in reports.

Regards,
Khalid


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:11 PM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Khalid-

One solution would be to change the data type from Date/Time to Text, but that's probably not a viable solution.  As you've probably noticed, when you supply only the month and the year to update a Date/Time data type, you always get 1 as the day part value.  How are you using this field in your application?

John Viescas, author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
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On Nov 14, 2016, at 22:48, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

John,

Then what's the conclusion, no solution ?????

Regards,
Khalid


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:36 AM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
No, Validation Text.  It's the message Access will display if there's an error.  Use Validation Rule to specify any special tests - but that won't apply in your case.

John Viescas, author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
Building Access Applications

On Nov 14, 2016, at 21:47, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

John,

What will be Validation Rule ?

Regards,
Khalid


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:28 AM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Khalid-

That's telling me that you cannot trap the error in code.  Access is grabbing it before your code can run.  You could try setting the Validation Text property in the table to see if that makes a difference.

John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:13 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



John,

Private Sub MfgDate_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim strMonth As String
    strMonth = Left(Me.MfgDate.Text, 3)
    MsgBox strMonth
    
    Select Case strMonth
        Case "Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul", "Aug", "Sep", "Oct", "Nov", "Dec"
            Exit Sub
        Case Else
            MsgBox "You must enter a valid month abbreviation: " & vbCrLf & _
           "Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec"
        Cancel = True 
    End Select
End Sub
------------------------------
After entering correct month abbrv. a msgbox displays the month abbrv. like Jan, but on wrong month abbrv. entered i am still waiting to see my custom message, instead i get the Access message "The text you entered....."

Khalid


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:57 AM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Khalid-

Arrggghh.  Is your code running at all?  You could add:

MsgBox strMonth

.. after the assignment of strMonth = Left(… to find out.

John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



John,

OK, but yet now on wrong month abbrv. entered my msgbox does'nt pops up, instead still getting Access message.....

Regards,
Khalid


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:39 AM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Khalid-

My error.  It should be:

   Case Else

And yes, when you enter Jan-2016, the value stored should be 1/1/2016.

John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:07 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



John,

The code is now:

Private Sub MfgDate_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
Dim strMonth As String
    strMonth = Left(Me.MfgDate.Text, 3)
    Select Case strMonth
        Case "Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul", "Aug", "Sep", "Oct", "Nov", "Dec"
            Exit Sub
 ==>   'Else
            MsgBox "You must enter a valid month abbreviation: " & vbCrLf & _
           "Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec"
        Cancel = True
    End Select
End Sub
--------------------------------------------------
First i tried by removing the first two lines:
Dim strMonth As String
    strMonth = Left(Me.MfgDate.Text, 3)
Then it gave the error on Select Case strMonth, highlighting strMonth, then i put the first two lines and again it was pointing to Else, so made the code as above.

Now after entering Jan-2016 and focus moves to next Control "ExpDate" i see that MfgDate is showing 01/01/2016

And if i mis-spell month abbrv. Access gives the old message "The text you entered is not valid........."

Regards,
Khalid


On Monday, November 14, 2016 11:33 PM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Khalid-

Sometimes VBA accepts an SQL predicate, but apparently it doesn't like this one.  Try this:

    SELECT CASE strMonth
        CASE "Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul", "Aug", "Sep", "Oct", "Nov", "Dec"
            Exit Sub
        Else
            MsgBox ….
    End Select


John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



John,

There is some Syntax Error in this line i could not find that

If strMonth Not In ("jan", "feb", "mar", "apr", "may", "jun", "jul", "aug", "sep", "oct", "nov", "dec") Then

Please check again.

Regards,
Khalid


On Monday, November 14, 2016 10:57 PM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Khalid-

If you want to look at what the user typed, you need to look at the .Text property of the control.

Dim strMonth As String

    strMonth = Left(Me.MfgDate.Text, 3)
    If strMonth Not In ("jan", "feb", "mar", "apr", "may", "jun", "jul", "aug", "sep", "oct", "nov", "dec") Then
        MsgBox "You must enter a valid month abbreviation: " & vbCRLF & _
           "Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec"
        Cancel = True
    End If


John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



John,
Form "Item File" has Record Source table "ItemFile". I cleared Format property for field MfgDate in the table and also on the Forms Control "MfgDate". Input Mask is LLL\-0000;0;
Now when i entered "Jan-2016" it returned 01/01/2016, also what condition should be written on the code 

Private Sub MfgDate_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
    If MfgDate ............... Then
        MsgBox ".............", vbExclamation, "..........."
    End If
    Me.Undo
End Sub

Regards,
Khalid


On Monday, November 14, 2016 9:41 PM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Khalid-

Does it work if you clear the Format property?  It sounds like Access is using that setting to grab the invalid data before your code gets a chance.

John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



John,

Yes i am trying Before Update event on the Control.
And just for reminder now i am using Access 2007.

One more thing my Access Help is not working i dont know what happened. I ran Microsoft Office Diagnostics and it tells everything is OK.
Regards,
Khalid


On Monday, November 14, 2016 7:31 PM, "John Viescas JohnV@msn.com [MS_Access_Professionals]" <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Khalid-

Are you trying to do the intercept in BeforeUpdate of the control?  I think that should work.  If you're using the Form's BeforeUpdate, that's too late.

John Viescas, Author
Effective SQL
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals 
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications 
(Paris, France)




On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Khalid Tanweer khalidtanweerburrah@yahoo.com [MS_Access_Professionals] <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Hi All,
I have two controls on Form "Item File"
MfgDate
ExpDate

Having Input Mask--> 00/00/0000;0;_
Format--> mmm-yyyy

Currently i have to enter date like 01/01/2016. I need to enter data like Jan-2016 and set
the check if month is mis-spelled i.e apart from Jan to Dec, my custom msgbox should open.
I did tried with input mask--> LLL\-0000;0; and was able to enter like Jan-2016 but i was
unable to display my custom msgbox if month part is mis-spelled, Access opens its built in message
As below:
The value you entered isn't valid for this field.
For example, you may have entered text in a numeric field or a number that is larger than the FieldSize setting permits.

Help required please.
Regards,
Khalid







































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