Selasa, 30 Oktober 2012

Re: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

 

Phil-

The only event that should be firing is the Current event when switching
between views. I just tried it with a simple form in 2007, and it
maintains the position when switching, but the Current event fires again.
You've got a Requery somewhere or something else is going on to put the
form back on the first row when switching views.

What, exactly, is the code in the Current Event embedded macro?

John Viescas, Author
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
http://www.viescas.com/
(Paris, France)

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Knowles <pdk444444@yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: <MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:36 PM
To: "MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com"
<MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

Hi John (and Glenn)

Glenn - I know something is in there somewhere that is causing this and I
accept that I might be blinded by being so close to the problem.

John- to answer your questions

there is an embedded macro in the 'on current' event of FormA which opens
a form (based on a query) of information relating to the current record.

This works fine for both groups of users and there is nothing in it to
distinguish between the 2 types of users.

All of the users in both groups can see the built in access menus /
toolbars / ribbon and the same thing occurs if they use the drop down view
options on the 'home' tab of the ribbon or use the right mouse button to
select form view.

It is not related to how the user is switching views because I am logging
on myself as the different users and using the same switching methods

cheers

Phil

________________________________
From: John Viescas <JohnV@msn.com>
To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 13:50
Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

Phil-

Is there any code in "FormA" that runs in the Open, Load, or Current
event? How do users "switch to Form view?" Are users allowed to use the
built-in Access menus / toolbars / Ribbon?

John Viescas, Author
Microsoft Access 2010 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2007 Inside Out
Microsoft Access 2003 Inside Out
Building Microsoft Access Applications
SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
http://www.viescas.com/
(Paris, France)

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Knowles <mailto:pdk444444%40yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: <mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:22 PM
To: "mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com"
<mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

Hi Glenn

Thanks for your prompt reply.

There is no logic in the whole system that differentiates between either
GroupA or GroupB or the users in those 2 groups - any logic that there is
is to deal with users of GroupC - users of groupA and groupB always fall
into the 'else' logic of an IF statement and therefore all conditions
should be exactly the same. Or should they?

The only differences between GroupA and GroupB users lie in the
permissions area.

cheers

Phil

________________________________
From: Glenn Lloyd <mailto:argeedblu%40gmail.com>
To: mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 11:22
Subject: RE: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

Phil,

It is difficult to diagnose this sort of problem without being able to see
the actual form and the code associated with it, or at least the code. My
guess is that there is something in either the Load or Open event handler
for the form that tests either the user name or group and adjusts the
recordset accordingly.

Glenn

From: mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Phil Knowles
Sent: October-30-12 7:07 AM
To: mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

Hi Guys

I got no response on this particular problem and I could really do with
some guidance - I'll try and explain it more fully.

I have 2 groups of user - say GroupA and GroupB

GroupA has 2 users - say UserA1 and User A2
GroupB has 2 users - say UserB1 and UserB2

All the users use FormA with datasheet view as default.

When GroupA users change from datasheet view to form view the record
displayed is whatever record was current in datasheet view but when GroupB
users change views the record displayed is always the first record of the
datasheet view (ie it seems to lose the current record flag)

GroupB has higher privileges than GroupA and I am also in GroupB and in
addition I have ADMINS privileges but it also happens to me. (ie when I
change views I get the first record rather than the current record)

Everything other than permissions is the same for both groups so I have
been searching in there for an answer but am now stuck.

There is some code in a macro to direct a completely different group of
users (GroupC) to a different form based on an If command dependent on
current user along the lines of

if current user()="userC1" then openform FormB else openform FormA

*** [Side Note - I bet I could achieve this by testing current group
rather than current user - is this possible]

Has anyone any ideas about what this could be or how I could track it down?

cheers

Phil

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From: pdk444444 <mailto:pdk444444%40yahoo.co.uk
<mailto:pdk444444%40yahoo.co.uk> >
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<mailto:MS_Access_Professionals%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 20:39
Subject: [MS_AccessPros] First record in a form

I have a form which my users display in datasheet view and then switch to
form view.

It behaves differently for 2 groups of users.

For one group it retains the record from datasheet view but for the other
group it reverts to the first record.

The group for which it reverts have higher privileges than the other
group!!

What could be causing it to revert to the first record?

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