ACCESS FEED: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Suggestion/Ideas plz, Customer wants a text box created with ALL changes

here are 3 typical examples, sorry about the terrible formating.
terence
BERG BALANCE TEST BERG BALANCE TEST
ID Long Integer 4
sitting_to_standing Long Integer 4

Standing_unsupported Long Integer 4
Sitting_w/_back Long Integer 4
Standing_to_sitting Long Integer 4

Transfers Long Integer 4
Standing unsupported with eyes closed Long Integer 4
Standing unsupported with feet together Long Integer 4

Reaching forward with outstreched arm while Long Integer 4
Pick up object from the floor from a standing Long Integer 4
Turning to look behind over left Long Integer 4

Turn 360 degress Long Integer 4
Placing alternate foot on step/stool while Long Integer 4
standing unsupported
Standing on one leg Long Integer 4

Standing unsupported one foot in front Long Integer 4
berg_score Long Integer 4
trial1 Single 4

trial2 Single 4
trial3 Single 4
avg Single 4

GAITRITE TEST GAITRITE TEST
Name Type Size

ID Long Integer 4
Assisted_device_used Yes/No 1

Cane Yes/No 1
Rigid_Walker Yes/No 1
Front_Wheel_Rolling_Walker Yes/No 1

Four_Wheel_Rolling_Walker Yes/No 1
Hemi_Walker Yes/No 1
None Yes/No 1

GAITRite_att Attachment Data

SF-36 TEST SF-36 TEST

Name Type Size

ID Long Integer 4
genral Long Integer 4

health Long Integer 4
vigorous Long Integer 4
moderate Long Integer 4

lifting Long Integer 4
climbing_several Long Integer 4
climbing_one Long Integer 4

bending Long Integer 4
walking_more Long Integer 4
walking_several Long Integer 4

walking_one Long Integer 4
bathing Long Integer 4
cut Long Integer 4

accomplished Long Integer 4
were Long Integer 4
had Long Integer 4

cut_down Long Integer 4
accomplished_less Long Integer 4
did Long Integer 4

past_4_weeks Long Integer 4
bodily_pain Long Integer 4
pain_interence Long Integer 4

full_of_pep Long Integer 4
very_nervous Long Integer 4
cheer_you_up Long Integer 4

calm Long Integer 4
lot_of_energy Long Integer 4
downhearted Long Integer 4

worn_out Long Integer 4
happy_person Long Integer 4
feel_tired Long Integer 4

during_the_past Long Integer 4
get_sick Long Integer 4
healthy_as_anybody Long Integer 4

get_worse Long Integer 4
excellent Long Integer

--- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Terence-
>
> I would try to have one field per result, but if you have some tests with only 1
> number or yes/no and others with a dozen or more, then it's going to be tough to
> do. Give me an idea of some of the tests and the readings you have to collect.
>
> John Viescas, author
> Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> Building Microsoft Access Applications
> Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> http://www.viescas.com/
> (Paris, France)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terence
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Suggestion/Ideas plz, Customer wants a text box
> created with ALL changes
>
> John, latex screening is simply a test (lots of yes/no) to determine the
> probability of latex alergic reactions. This is singled out because it must be
> done every visit and overlays the previous, it does not have a historic
> relevance.
>
> Its a federal requirement.
>
> John, How would you have handled say, a dozen variables half yes/no and half
> numeric in a single text field, would you have done something like comma
> seprated ?
> terence
>
> --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Terence-
> >
> > I would have done:
> >
> > Patient_Info
> >
> > Visit_Table
> >
> > Visit_Tests (1 row per test per visit.)
> >
> > Not sure what you mean by latex screening. What is that for?
> >
> > John Viescas, author
> > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > http://www.viescas.com/
> > (Paris, France)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terence
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:52 AM
> > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Suggestion/Ideas plz, Customer wants a text box
> > created with ALL changes
> >
> > Actually John, thats how I started it.
> >
> > The opriginal desing called for 3 tables,
> > Patient_INFO (1 per patient), name , address, soc, etc
> >
> > Then a latex screening Table...1 per Patient.
> >
> > And then a Visit_table.
> >
> > The visit table had all the stats.
> >
> > The Visit-table had the final score from each of the tests...thus the test
> would
> > be perfromed, written down on paper, totaled, and the total entered into the
> > Visit_Table.
> >
> > Then we embarked on doing away with the paper forms. hence a popup for each
> > paper form, that automatically scored, and the score still placed in the
> > Visit_table.
> >
> > If I tried to build a text fuield for each test, it would involve using
> > substantial logic , and i would probably have to do something like comma
> > seperated variables within each test_text_filed to seperate the metrics.
> >
> > But it could be done.
> >
> > I am curious, even though 40 tables IS Bizzare, do you see anything inherently
> > wrong with it ?
> >
> > Do you anticipate speed problems ?, Size problems, all of the above ?
> > terence
> >
> >
> > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Terence-
> > >
> > > Is there any possibility to put all this data in one table? The layout
> would
> > > look like:
> > >
> > > PatientID
> > > TestID
> > > TestDate
> > > TestData1
> > > TestData2 ...
> > >
> > > You could have a table to list all the test types, and that table could
> > indicate
> > > how many of what type of field is needed to record the test data. Maybe you
> > can
> > > do it all in 2 or 3 text fields. Just trying to throw out some ideas to
> make
> > > this more manageable. Forty tables is bizarre. To add a new test right
> now,
> > > you must design a new table and companion data entry form. If you could
> > > redesign it as I have suggested, adding a new test would simply involve
> adding
> > a
> > > row to the test types table.
> > >
> > > John Viescas, author
> > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > (Paris, France)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terence
> > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:14 AM
> > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Suggestion/Ideas plz, Customer wants a text box
> > > created with ALL changes
> > >
> > > LOL, Thanx John, I needed that...I really did :)
> > >
> > > This project started as a simple database for a Physical Therapy Clinic. Th=
> > > e databse grew because they found out I could build, score, and Store the d=
> > > ata from an assortment of tests they do. The assortment of test is insane, =
> > > Things like, SF36, Postural Sway, Fear and beleifs Scale, Latex screening, =
> > > Timed up and Go, 6 meter walk test, On and On.
> > >
> > > The forms have minimal calculation in them, simply gave them the oportunity=
> > > to Click Mousey, instead of keeping paper sheets. Additionally this is a L=
> > > arge Reasearch Project, so they keep HUGE amounts of clinacal data for anal=
> > > ytics.
> > >
> > > I build each form as a popup, each popup was bound to its own table, and ea=
> > > ch table is tied via ID to it's Patients/Visit record.
> > >
> > > We are now about 40 tables with about 400 potential fields/elements being s=
> > > tored per visit. Although the norm is about half that for a typical visit.
> > >
> > > AND YES , I am scared about the size of this...
> > >
> > > In your aponion John , am I taxing MS Access tooooo Much with this applciat=
> > > ion and should perhaps talk to the customer about scaling back ?
> > >
> > > We have yet to populate this thing and give it a work out.
> > > I am worried about access speed, Space , we got plenty.
> > >
> > > What the therapist actually are doing is using WIFI Tablets connected to th=
> > > e PC, so they can move around, assist the patients, and take measurements a=
> > > s they go.
> > >
> > > Your thoughts are always welcome, harsh as they may be at time :)
> > > Yours
> > > terence
> > >
> > > Majority of the field are either Number (Integer) or yes/no, scattered text
> > and
> > > attachments.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Terence-
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but for how many records? Is there only one record in each of the 40
> > > > tables? To get all the fields concatenated from a record into one string,
> > do:
> > > >
> > > > Dim strResult As String, rst As DAO.Recordset, intI as Integer
> > > >
> > > > Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(strTbl, dbOpenDynaset)
> > > > If Not rst.EOF Then
> > > > For intI = 0 To rst.Fields.Count - 1
> > > > strResult = strResult & rst(intI) & ", "
> > > > Next intI
> > > > End If
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Viescas, author
> > > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > > (Paris, France)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terence
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:46 AM
> > > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Suggestion/Ideas plz, Customer wants a text
> box
> > > > created with ALL changes
> > > >
> > > > ok, how about this,
> > > >
> > > > I can get the count of how many Fields are in each table as below
> > > >
> > > > Dim db As Database
> > > > Dim strtbl As String
> > > > strtbl = "INFO"
> > > > Set db = CurrentDb
> > > > MsgBox db.TableDefs(strtbl).Fields.Count
> > > >
> > > > is there a way I can retrieve the content of each individual field like
> > > walking
> > > > a subscripted array ?
> > > >
> > > > Terence
> > > >
> > > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "Terence"
> <buffalome90210@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have have about 40 tables in this database, which may or may be
> created
> > d=
> > > > > uring an "Encounter". My customer wants all the data that is added into
> > tho=
> > > > > se tables during that "Encounter" dumped into a text box, we are not
> > concer=
> > > > > ned with format. We dont even care if there are associated label or just
> > th=
> > > > > e data, I just need the stuff shoved in a box.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are aprox 400 individual elements, so I dont want to write code to
> > do=
> > > > > them all. Any one have a clever idea?
> > > > > terence
> > > > >
> > > > > I am thinking something with a Star (*)...like a me.dumpbox =3D
> > me.recordse=
> > > > > t
> > > > >
> > > > > or making some sort of a continuos for, or a datasheet, I just dont know
> ?
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