You are most welcome Walter!
As mentioned in my post to John, this exercise has been helpful in acquiring an understanding of multi-value fields - thanks to the thread initiated by you.
Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
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----- Original Message -----
From: nkpberk
To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 01:23
Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item field
A.D.
Yea, But can you make a dog quack like a duck???
To quote John., that is really f*g brilliant. Do ever sleep?
I am going to have to dig deeper into "impossibilities"
It's gonna take me a while to figure out exactly what you did but thank you very much!
Walter
--- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "A.D. Tejpal" <adtp@...> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Interestingly, it is found that the functionality of normal multi-value field (MVF) combo boxes on a simulated continuous form having rows of unbound controls, as sought by Walter, can be realized through the concept of reverse crosstab.
>
> In this specific case, it involves a single record dummy table as record source for the form, with 12 multi-value fields (MV01 to MV12) catering to the 12 rows of MVF combo boxes (SS01 to SS12). The dummy MVF's serve somewhat like transposed front ends for the real MVF's in main data source. As an abundant precaution, form's cycle property is set to single record. AllowAdditions & AllowDeletions properties are also set to False (This does not interfere with the main data source as the form is not bound to that).
>
> It is ensured that at all stages, contents of these MVF combos keep in synch with those of matching MVF fields on matching records in the data source. This arrangement is found more robust than the other alternative of having a single MVF field in the dummy table and then dynamically shifting the control source of MVF combos on the form as required.
>
> Walter's file, duly modified so as to demonstrate the above approach, renamed as A2K10_Form_MultiValueContSimulated.zip, has been uploaded to Samples folder in Files section. In the course of this exercise, certain interesting functions and subroutines for handling MVF fields & combos were developed at my end. These are also included as module M_MultiValuedFields.
>
> Walter: You might like to try it out and let me know whether your problem stands resolved and whether anything needs further attention.
>
> Note:
> Value property of multi-value combo box returns an array while similar property of multi-value field returns a recordset.
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D. Tejpal
> ------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Viescas
> To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 00:32
> Subject: RE: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item field
>
>
> A.D.-
>
> I even wrote a bit of code to run through all the properties of the combo bound
> to the MVF to see if there is a "hidden" AllowMultipleValues. Here's the list:
>
> EventProcPrefix Supplier_IDs
> Name Supplier IDs
> ControlType 111
> ControlSource Supplier IDs
> Format
> DecimalPlaces 255
> Visible True
> DatasheetCaption
> ColumnCount 2
> ColumnWidths 0;1440
> ColumnHeads False
> ListRows 16
> ListWidth 1440
> SeparatorCharacters 0
> Width 3450
> Height 359
> Top 2636
> Left 2354
> BackStyle 1
> BackColor 16777215
> BorderStyle 1
> OldBorderStyle 1
> BorderLineStyle 0
> BorderWidth 0
> BorderColor 12632256
> SpecialEffect 0
> FontName Calibri
> FontSize 11
> TextAlign 0
> FontWeight 400
> FontUnderline False
> FontItalic False
> FontBold 0
> ForeColor 0
> IsHyperlink False
> DisplayAsHyperlink 0
> GridlineStyleTop 0
> GridlineStyleBottom 0
> GridlineStyleLeft 0
> GridlineStyleRight 0
> GridlineColor 0
> GridlineWidthTop 1
> GridlineWidthBottom 1
> GridlineWidthLeft 1
> GridlineWidthRight 1
> TopMargin 22
> BottomMargin 22
> LeftMargin 22
> RightMargin 22
> TopPadding 30
> BottomPadding 30
> LeftPadding 30
> RightPadding 30
> HorizontalAnchor 0
> VerticalAnchor 0
> CanGrow False
> CanShrink False
> DisplayWhen 0
> ReadingOrder 0
> ScrollBarAlign 0
> NumeralShapes 0
> KeyboardLanguage 0
> RowSource SELECT [ID], [Company] FROM [Suppliers Extended]
> ORDER BY [Company];
> RowSourceType Table/Query
> BoundColumn 1
> LimitToList True
> AllowValueListEdits True
> ListItemsEditForm
> InheritValueList True
> ShowOnlyRowSourceValues False
> InputMask
> DefaultValue
> ValidationRule
> ValidationText
> Enabled True
> Locked False
> AutoExpand True
> OnClick
> OnClickEmMacro
> BeforeUpdate
> BeforeUpdateEmMacro
> AfterUpdate
> AfterUpdateEmMacro
> OnDirty
> OnDirtyEmMacro
> OnChange
> OnChangeEmMacro
> OnNotInList
> OnNotInListEmMacro
> OnGotFocus
> OnGotFocusEmMacro
> OnLostFocus
> OnLostFocusEmMacro
> OnDblClick
> OnDblClickEmMacro
> OnMouseDown
> OnMouseDownEmMacro
> OnMouseUp
> OnMouseUpEmMacro
> OnMouseMove
> OnMouseMoveEmMacro
> OnKeyDown
> OnKeyDownEmMacro
> OnKeyUp
> OnKeyUpEmMacro
> OnKeyPress
> OnKeyPressEmMacro
> OnEnter
> OnEnterEmMacro
> OnExit
> OnExitEmMacro
> OnUndo
> OnUndoEmMacro
> ControlTipText
> TabIndex 9
> TabStop True
> StatusBarText
> ShortcutMenuBar
> HelpContextId 0
> AllowAutoCorrect True
> IMEHold False
> IMEMode 0
> IMESentenceMode 3
> SmartTags
> Tag
> TextFontCharSet 0
> ConditionalFormat Null
> ColumnWidth -1
> ColumnOrder 0
> ColumnHidden False
> Section 0
> Text Null
> SelText Null
> SelStart Null
> SelLength Null
> ListCount 10
> ListIndex 3
> InSelection Null
> AggregateType -1
> Layout 0
> LayoutID 0
>
> I don't see one, do you?
>
>
> John Viescas, author
> Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> Building Microsoft Access Applications
> Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> http://www.viescas.com/
> (Paris, France)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Viescas
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:44 PM
> To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item
> field
>
> A.D.-
>
> Take a look at "Supplier IDs" in the Products table in Northwind. It is MVF,
> and you'll find a property "Allow Multiple Values" on the Lookup tab in Table
> Design. If you open the Product Details form, you'll see that the combo box
> exhibits the special characteristics needed to support the MVF. But if you look
> at the form in Design view and select the combo box, that property is nowhere to
> be found. It's ONLY when a combo is bound to an MVF that it takes on the
> special characteristics. I don't think there's any way to make this happen for
> an unbound control.
>
> John Viescas, author
> Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> Building Microsoft Access Applications
> Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> http://www.viescas.com/
> (Paris, France)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of A.D. Tejpal
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:07 PM
> To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item
> field
>
> Walter,
>
> I have not had any experience with multi-valued fields (MVF).
>
> Considering your keen-ness and the situation explained by you, preliminary
> study with Access 2010 seems to indicate that there could be an interesting way
> to implement the functionality of MVF on simulated continuous form made up of
> unbound controls.
>
> It might perhaps become feasible for you to have the best of both worlds, in
> a seamless manner, complete with MVF style drop down list having check boxes.
>
> After some pertinent tests, I would try to post further details.
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D. Tejpal
> ------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nkpberk
> To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 00:00
> Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item
> field
>
>
> John;
> The only way I can think of is to open a bound single record form from the
> add/delete/( add an edit button) using the record IDs .
> Kind of a kludge to use another kludge.
> Walter
>
> --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Walter-
> >
> > The problem is a Combo Box acts in a "special" way only when it is bound to
> a
> > multi-value field. When bound to a normal field or unbound, it's just a
> plain
> > Combo Box. To do what you want, you would have to use a plain text box and
> use
> > your code to assign the list of comma-separated values to show the
> underlying
> > multi-values. I'm not sure how you would handle letting the user update the
> > values to add or remove a Station.
> >
> > John Viescas, author
> > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > http://www.viescas.com/
> > (Paris, France)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nkpberk
> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:53 PM
> > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item
> field
> >
> > John;
> > It's in the file root directory (my bad) named "TrainDB" it's a zip
> > and has only one form and all the objects to make it work.
> > I don't have all the update/add record stuff working yet, wanted to see if I
> > could get past this multiselect thing
> > Walter
> >
> > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Walter-
> > >
> > > Post the name of the form that's giving you trouble. It's late here, so I
> > won't
> > > get to it until tomorrow, but maybe someone else will pick it up. If not,
> > I'll
> > > have a look at it in the morning.
> > >
> > > John Viescas, author
> > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > (Paris, France)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nkpberk
> > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:13 PM
> > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi item
> > field
> > >
> > > John & Group
> > >
> > > I have uploaded a zip file of the form and related objects that should
> make it
> > > clearer what is happening with the multiselect field I am attempting to
> make
> > > work.
> > >
> > > A.D. may be interested in some of the changes I made to his sample
> > > Not everything works as to data updating, adding records and such but I
> wanted
> > > to try to get past the problem field first.
> > >
> > > Walter Griffin
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "nkpberk" <wgriffin48@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John;
> > > > The form is unbound and the combo box is trying to display a multi value
> > field
> > > from the "tblTrain" In VBA code. The combo dropdown is populated by
> > > "tblStations" as the rowsource.
> > > > Apparently, as the form is not bound to any table I can't get the
> combobox
> > to
> > > display as a multiselect as the field is defined in its table
> > > "tblTrain!Stations_Served"
> > > > This evening I will try to put a subset of this app together with this
> form
> > > and supporting tables/queries/code and upload it to this group, maybe that
> > will
> > > help.
> > > > Walter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Walter-
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm having a hard time visualizing what it is you're trying to do. Is
> the
> > > combo
> > > > > box bound? If so, what is the data type of the bound field -
> multi-value?
> > > What
> > > > > is the Record Source of the form?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John Viescas, author
> > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > > > (Paris, France)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nkpberk
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:20 PM
> > > > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with multi
> item
> > > field
> > > > >
> > > > > John:
> > > > > The code is to apply the existing values stored in the
> > > > > "tblTrain!Stations_Served", other code would be required to update the
> > data.
> > > > >
> > > > > The kludge is more difficult to deal with for novices than otherwise,
> I
> > > don't
> > > > > know how M$ figured it would help if they were not going to support
> the
> > > creative
> > > > > data structure throughout the application
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't like attachments either but I could not make OLE containers
> work
> > for
> > > the
> > > > > life of me in 2010. Worked OK in 2K!
> > > > >
> > > > > As to normalizing data, I am applying the station "ID"s to the
> "tblTrain"
> > > not a
> > > > > bunch of duplicate text.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been resisting the subform because each train record is only on
> one
> > > line
> > > > > on a highly preformated form .
> > > > >
> > > > > if I want to make the "define trains" form single record I could keep
> the
> > > multi
> > > > > select and I think I could display the color code box
> > > > >
> > > > > D****d if you do and d****d if you don't situation here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Walter
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas" <john@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Walter-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then I don't understand the purpose of your code. As noted earlier
> (and
> > > as
> > > > > you
> > > > > > have discovered), a combo box doesn't allow multi-select. You can
> > assign
> > > only
> > > > > > ONE value to a combo box. If the box is bound to a multi-value
> field,
> > it
> > > > > should
> > > > > > show all the currently selected values when you drop it down - plus
> show
> > > blank
> > > > > > check boxes next to rows that aren't already included in the list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you haven't figured out, multi-value fields are a REALLY REALLY
> BAD
> > > idea.
> > > > > > It's a kludge invented in 2007 to "help" novice users deal with
> > > unnormalized
> > > > > > data. I recommend you get rid of the multi-value field and build a
> real
> > > > > > many-many table that you edit with a subform or a popup form.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Viescas, author
> > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > > > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > > > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > > > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > > > > (Paris, France)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> nkpberk
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:53 PM
> > > > > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with
> multi
> > item
> > > > > field
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John;
> > > > > > The rowsource is my "tblStations". if I limit the list to only the
> > > currently
> > > > > > selected stations/towns I won't be able to add or remove stations to
> the
> > > > > field.
> > > > > > The purpose of this form is to "Define Trains"
> > > > > > (Name,symbol,type,origin,termination,stations_served,color_code).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The original bound form allows multiselect on "Stations_Served"
> field
> > > because
> > > > > I
> > > > > > am using a combobox lookup in the table "tblTrain" with multiselect
> set
> > to
> > > > > true
> > > > > > (however no such property is available for a combobox on a
> form!?)The
> > > multiple
> > > > > > stations are displayed in one row with a ";" between them and the
> > dropdown
> > > > > > displays the station list with a checkbox next to each to denote
> > > selection.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The faux continuous record form was an attempt to do the color box
> thing
> > > > > (works
> > > > > > splendid) but it seems at the expense of the multi item field
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Walter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas"
> <john@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Walter-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A Combo Box doesn't allow multiple selections, but a List Box
> does.
> > It
> > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > like you need to use your list to apply a filter to the Row Source
> to
> > > show
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > the stations in the current record. What is the Row Source of the
> > combo
> > > > > box?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John Viescas, author
> > > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > > > > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > > > > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > > > > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > > > > > (Paris, France)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> nkpberk
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:29 PM
> > > > > > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with
> multi
> > > item
> > > > > > field
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John;
> > > > > > > The row source is another table (tblStations) that populates the
> > > dropdown,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > tblTrains has a field "stations_Served" that is a list of all the
> > > > > > stations/towns
> > > > > > > that the train does work, so by definition it is potentially a
> > multiple
> > > item
> > > > > > > field (some trains only work one station, however). The field
> contains
> > > the
> > > > > > "ID"s
> > > > > > > for the stations in a comma delimited list of numbers. I can't get
> it
> > to
> > > > > > display
> > > > > > > anything if the field has more than one item in it and I can't get
> the
> > > drop
> > > > > > down
> > > > > > > to allow multiple entries,
> > > > > > > The code generates "SList" perfectly but it won't assign to "SSxx"
> > combo
> > > box
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > I get no error messages.
> > > > > > > Walter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "John Viescas"
> <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Walter-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the initial value of Counter is 0, then you need to do:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For i = 0 To Counter - 1
> > > > > > > > SList = SList & StationList(i) & ","
> > > > > > > > Next i
> > > > > > > > ' Strip off the last comma
> > > > > > > > SList = Left(SList, Len(SList) - 1)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the SSxxx control is a combo box, perhaps you mean to set the
> > > > > RowSource,
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > the value of the control?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John Viescas, author
> > > > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2010 Inside Out
> > > > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2007 Inside Out
> > > > > > > > Building Microsoft Access Applications
> > > > > > > > Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
> > > > > > > > SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
> > > > > > > > http://www.viescas.com/
> > > > > > > > (Paris, France)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > [mailto:MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > nkpberk
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:21 AM
> > > > > > > > To: MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [MS_AccessPros] Re: Populating an unbound textbox with
> > multi
> > > item
> > > > > > > field
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi All;
> > > > > > > > I did some more research on the problem below and was able to
> come
> > up
> > > with
> > > > > > > this;
> > > > > > > > 'deal with multi valued field
> > > > > > > > Set ChildRS = rst!Stations_Serviced.Value
> > > > > > > > Do Until ChildRS.EOF
> > > > > > > > ChildRS.MoveFirst
> > > > > > > > Do Until ChildRS.EOF
> > > > > > > > StationList(Counter) = ChildRS!Value.Value
> > > > > > > > ChildRS.MoveNext
> > > > > > > > Counter = Counter + 1
> > > > > > > > Loop
> > > > > > > > SList = StationList(0)
> > > > > > > > For i = 1 To Counter - 1
> > > > > > > > SList = SList + "," & StationList(i)
> > > > > > > > Next i
> > > > > > > > Me("SS" & Format(Cnt, "00")) = SList
> > > > > > > > Loop
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where SList is a comma delimited string of the
> > ChildRS!Value.Value's,
> > > if
> > > > > > SList
> > > > > > > > contains only one item it works fine, more than that and I get a
> > blank
> > > > > > > combobox
> > > > > > > > on the form. I found that a lookup combobox in a table allows
> for
> > > multiple
> > > > > > > > selections one on a form does not (What is with that?)
> > > > > > > > Is there a way to make this work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Walter Griffin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In MS_Access_Professionals@yahoogroups.com, "nkpberk"
> > > <wgriffin48@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Group;
> > > > > > > > > Back with more near impossibilities :-)
> > > > > > > > > Expanding on A.D.'s faux continuous form (the color box thing)
> I
> > > also
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > field in my "trains" table that has a multiple entry field
> called
> > > > > > > > "Stations_Serviced" indicating what towns/station car pickup and
> > > setout
> > > > > > takes
> > > > > > > > place, Some trains have more than one location to work.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyway, the control is "SSxx" a combobox populated by my
> > "Stations"
> > > > > table
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the "IDStation" times how many, is saved to the
> > > tblTrain!Stations_Served
> > > > > > > > > field. Is there a way to make this work with an unbound
> combobox?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I get an error message "64224 Method 'Collect' of object
> > > 'recordset2'
> > > > > > > failed"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I cannot find any reference to this in "Help" so this is
> cryptic
> > at
> > > > > best.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Walter Griffin
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